Comments on: What Makes A Message Compelling? http://educationaltechnology.ca/couros/725 rants & resources from an open educator Wed, 02 May 2012 18:51:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: 益学会 > OLDaily 中文版 » Blog Archive » 2007年12月11日 理智 社会性网络 自由知识 开普敦宣言 XMPP http://educationaltechnology.ca/couros/725/comment-page-1#comment-122275 益学会 > OLDaily 中文版 » Blog Archive » 2007年12月11日 理智 社会性网络 自由知识 开普敦宣言 XMPP Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:11:39 +0000 http://educationaltechnology.ca/couros/725#comment-122275 [...] Couros, Open Thinking and Digital Pedagogy December 11, 2007 [原文链接] [Tags: Video] [...] [...] Couros, Open Thinking and Digital Pedagogy December 11, 2007 [原文链接] [Tags: Video] [...]

]]> By: Skip Via http://educationaltechnology.ca/couros/725/comment-page-1#comment-121667 Skip Via Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:10:32 +0000 http://educationaltechnology.ca/couros/725#comment-121667 We've had similar discussions in some of my classes. There is an interesting perspective that invariably comes up that speaks volumes about information literacy in the US. "Trusted sources," it seems, are not really trusted by a significant portion of post-secondary students. This appears to be a result of the perception on the part of many students that government routinely lies to us (or "spins the truth," as one student phrased it) and cannot be trusted to tell us the truth if the truth interferes with belief or policy. At least some students, it seems, assume there is a self-serving spin to information that the government publishes and that the "real truth" is something different. That may account, in part, for the ratings that you refer to in your post. I don't know if the Canadian experience is any different. We certainly owe it to our students to discuss these issues. We’ve had similar discussions in some of my classes. There is an interesting perspective that invariably comes up that speaks volumes about information literacy in the US. “Trusted sources,” it seems, are not really trusted by a significant portion of post-secondary students. This appears to be a result of the perception on the part of many students that government routinely lies to us (or “spins the truth,” as one student phrased it) and cannot be trusted to tell us the truth if the truth interferes with belief or policy. At least some students, it seems, assume there is a self-serving spin to information that the government publishes and that the “real truth” is something different. That may account, in part, for the ratings that you refer to in your post.

I don’t know if the Canadian experience is any different. We certainly owe it to our students to discuss these issues.

]]> By: Alec http://educationaltechnology.ca/couros/725/comment-page-1#comment-121267 Alec Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:02:51 +0000 http://educationaltechnology.ca/couros/725#comment-121267 Katherine, you know I own that book and I have never actually had the time to open it up. I'm going to try to make that holiday reading. Thanks to both of you for your comments. Katherine, you know I own that book and I have never actually had the time to open it up. I’m going to try to make that holiday reading.

Thanks to both of you for your comments.

]]> By: Katherine Nowak http://educationaltechnology.ca/couros/725/comment-page-1#comment-121266 Katherine Nowak Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:00:35 +0000 http://educationaltechnology.ca/couros/725#comment-121266 IF you haven't already, you should check out the book "Made to Stick" by Chip and Dan Heath. There is also a very thorough review of its ideas on lifehack.org: http://tinyurl.com/254pfj IF you haven’t already, you should check out the book “Made to Stick” by Chip and Dan Heath. There is also a very thorough review of its ideas on lifehack.org: http://tinyurl.com/254pfj

]]> By: David Truss http://educationaltechnology.ca/couros/725/comment-page-1#comment-121102 David Truss Sun, 09 Dec 2007 04:05:22 +0000 http://educationaltechnology.ca/couros/725#comment-121102 Alec, As I read this I wondered more about audience than of argument. I would have no interest in watching an immunization video, but if I were opposed to it, then I might not only seek one out, but also be compelled to comment/rate a movie that supported my views. That said, I think that when we bring alternative views into the classroom we truly can inspire greater engagement. Recently I had students blog reflections, (on a private Ning network), on these two posts: http://www.downes.ca/post/38502 http://wanderingink.wordpress.com/2007/05/23/how-to-prevent-another-leonardo-da-vinci/ ... I was impressed by some of the very insightful reflections. I think the real challenge is to create a learning environment where students end up bringing (or better yet making) alternative messages into our classrooms. Dave Alec,
As I read this I wondered more about audience than of argument. I would have no interest in watching an immunization video, but if I were opposed to it, then I might not only seek one out, but also be compelled to comment/rate a movie that supported my views.

That said, I think that when we bring alternative views into the classroom we truly can inspire greater engagement. Recently I had students blog reflections, (on a private Ning network), on these two posts:
http://www.downes.ca/post/38502
http://wanderingink.wordpress.com/2007/05/23/how-to-prevent-another-leonardo-da-vinci/
… I was impressed by some of the very insightful reflections.

I think the real challenge is to create a learning environment where students end up bringing (or better yet making) alternative messages into our classrooms.
Dave

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